hidden rake in crypto casino "fair" games?

[btcinfo891]

noticed something weird with roobet mines game. supposed to have transparent house edge but tracked 10,000 outcomes and math doesnt add up.
expected return like -2.5% but actually getting -6.8%. anyone else tracking these provably fair games?

 

[hack3rcon]

if you're talking about mines, they add rake for certain bet patterns. not disclosed clearly in UI. when you auto-cash at specific multipliers they take extra cut

 

[btcinfo891]

if you're talking about mines, they add rake for certain bet patterns. not disclosed clearly in UI. when you auto-cash at specific multipliers they take extra cut

so theyre changing house edge based on betting strategy??? thats insane. thought crypto casinos were about transparency

 

[Cryptoist]

this is why i track everything. stake dice promises 1% house edge but with certain auto-bet patterns ive measured up to 4%. they call it "anti-automation fee" but never mention it upfront

 

[coinhunter]

wait what? sites literally advertising provably fair then adding hidden fees? isnt that fraud?

 

[Btcalysis]

wait what? sites literally advertising provably fair then adding hidden fees? isnt that fraud?

@coinhunter its in the fine print. most players click through terms without reading. technically disclosed but practically hidden. this why i trust numbers over marketing

 

[The Cryptovator]

tested this myself on bc.game crash. set auto cashout at 1.5x for 1000 bets. lost 4.5% instead of expected 1%. then did manual betting same strategy, lost proper 1%

 

[kurt987]

lemme get this straight. we moved from traditional casinos to crypto for fairness/transparency and theyre pulling the same shady shit?

 

[bittersweet]

been gambling since 2013 and written about this for years. "provably fair" means you can verify randomness NOT house edge. two very different things

 

[marshal]

checked stakes plinko. standard house edge calculator shows 1.1% but my data over 5k drops shows 3.7% house edge. they adding something to risk levels but not documenting it

 

[bzzzzzz]

this is actually huge if true. should make a youtube video exposing all crypto casinos hidden rakes. bet user agreements are written to allow this somewhere

 

[BTCat]

maybe these sites need extra revenue to pay massive streamer deals and sponsorships. not defending but trying to understand business model

 

[cryptonit]

maybe these sites need extra revenue to pay massive streamer deals and sponsorships. not defending but trying to understand business model

nah screw that. sites making millions daily. they dont need to deceive players. if you need 6% house edge, advertise 6% not 1%

 

[IamNew]

do they only do this with auto-bet features? like if i manually click each bet im getting proper odds?

 

[hack3rcon]

@IamNew evidence suggests yes. manual betting usually honors advertised house edge. its automation features that trigger hidden fees. probably coded to detect patterns

 

[btcinfo891]

contacted roobet support about mines discrepancy. they said "advanced betting strategies may have different EV calculations." basically admitting it without saying it

 

[BTCat]

wait wtf @btcinfo891 that response is bullshit. "advanced strategies different EV" = we changing house edge when we feel like it. this should be illegal

 

[P@y_D@y]

why illegal? their platform their rules. don't like it don't play. not like you forced to autobet

 

[BTCat]

why illegal? their platform their rules. don't like it don't play. not like you forced to autobet

are you serious? advertising 1% house edge then giving 4% is false advertising. imagine McDonald's saying burger is $5 then charging $15 if you eat it fast

 

[P@y_D@y]

except burgers have consumer protection. gambling doesn't. casinos = house always wins. deal with it